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Unless we demonstrate that we have some mastery of their ideology, they’ll dismiss us as intellectual pussies.

Rob Brezsny : Gaia Explorer
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Great leaders are almost always great simplifiers, who can cut through argument, debate, and doubt to offer a solution...

Colin Powell
 
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Listen to the stories.  You want to help the world?  Read the poetry of the people we're bombing.  Write poetry for them.  Sing songs for them, and for us.  And listen to everybody.

You cannot control how diverse any room is, or any institution, or any policy.  But you can control how diverse you are, and who you love and who you listen to.

So tonight, don't go hang out with your mirrors (whether that's physical or ideological).  Go find somebody you disagree with, and go hang out.

In a perfect world, Barney Frank and Jesse Helms are best friends.

Sherman Alexie
Source: speech, Rutgers University, October 10, 2001; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WUA8vL1L5Q&feature=related
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Respectful dialog, in the interest of searching for more complete truth, is considerably more productive than arguing for the purity of position.

Gerard Vanderhaar
 
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This is chiefly practicable in a dispute between scholars in the presence of the unlearned. If you have no argument ad rem, and none either ad hominem, you can make one ad auditores; that is to say, you can start some invalid objection, which, however, only an expert sees to be invalid. Now your opponent is an expert, but those who form your audience are not, and accordingly in their eyes he is defeated; particularly if the objection which you make places him in any ridiculous light. People are ready to laugh, and you have the laughers on your side. To show that your objection is an idle one, would require a long explanation on the part of your opponent, and a reference to the principles of the branch of knowledge in question, or to the elements of the matter which you are discussing; and people are not disposed to listen to it. For example, your opponent states that in the original formation of a mountain-range the granite and other elements in its composition were, by reason of their high temperature, in a fluid or molten state; that the temperature must have amounted to some 480 degrees Fahrenheit; and that when the mass took shape it was covered by the sea. You reply, by an argument ad auditores, that at that temperature - nay, indeed, long before it had been reached, namely, at 212 degrees Fahrenheit - the sea would have been boiled away, and spread through the air in the form of steam. At this the audience laughs. To refute the objection, your opponent would have to show that the boiling-point depends not only on the degree of warmth, but also on the atmospheric pressure; and that as soon as about half the sea-water had gone off in the shape of steam, this pressure would be so greatly increased that the rest of it would fail to boil even at a temperature of 480 degrees. He is debarred from giving this explanation, as it would require a treatise to demonstrate the matter to those who had no acquaintance with physics.

Arthur Schopenhauer : German philosopher
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 - 1860)
Source: http://coolhaus.de/art-of-controversy/erist28.htm
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"To achieve respectability, to be admitted to the debate, they must accept without question or inquiry the fundamental doctrine that the state is benevolent, governed by the loftiest intentions, adopting a defensive stance, not an actor in world affairs but only reacting to the crimes of others...If even the harshest of critics tacitly adopt these premises, then the ordinary person may ask, who am I to disagree?"

Noam Chomsky (1928 - )
 
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Empirical confirmation of Darwin's theory did not prove forthcoming in the first few decades following its publication. Indeed, by the early twentieth century, many noted naturalists had come to regard Darwin's account of evolution by natural selection as a theoretical failure. Some even described their continuing commitment to evolution as a matter of faith, rather an ironic justification in light of the impending Scopes trial of 1925. "I suppose that everyone is familiar in outline with the theory of the origin of species which Darwin promulgated. Through the last fifty years this theme of the natural selection of favored races has been developed and expounded in writings innumerable. Favored races certainly can replace others. The argument is sound, but we are doubtful of its value. For us that debate stands adjourned. We go to Darwin for his incomparable collection of facts. We would fain emulate his scholarship, his width and his power of exposition, but to us he speaks no more with philosophical authority. We read his scheme of evolution as we would those of Leucretius or of Lamarck, delighting in their simplicity and courage." "Modern research lends not the smallest encouragement or sanction to the view that gradual evolution occurs by the transformation of masses of individuals, though that fancy has fixed itself on popular imagination."

William Bateson (1861 - 1926)
Source: Address of the President of the British Association for the Advancement of Science, August 14, 1914
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In the course of a debate with Lewis Terman: Without offering any data on all that occurs between conception and the age of kindergarten, they announce on the basis of what they have got out of a few thousand questionnaires that they are measuring the hereditary mental endowment of human beings. Obviously, this is not a conclusion obtained by research. It is a conclusion planted by the will to believe. It is, I think, for the most part unconsciously planted. . . . If the impression takes root that these tests really measure intelligence, that they constitute a sort of last judgment on the child's capacity, that they reveal "scientifically" his predestined ability, then it would be a thousand times better if all the intelligence testers and all their questionnaires were sunk in the Sargasso Sea.

Walter Lippmann (1889 - 1974)
Source: quoted: Stephen Jay Gould, The Mismeasure of Man, W.W.Norton & Co., Ltd, NY, 1996
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At the heart of the First Amendment lies the principle that each person should decide for him or herself the ideas and beliefs deserving of expression, consideration, and adherence. Our political system and cultural life rest upon this ideal. Government action that stifles speech on account of its message, or that requires the utterance of a particular message favored by the Government, contravenes this essential right. Laws of this sort pose the inherent risk that the Government seeks not to advance a legitimate regulatory goal, but to suppress unpopular ideas or information or manipulate the public debate through coercion rather than persuasion.

U.S. Supreme Court
Source: 1994, Turner Broadcasting System v. FCC, 114 S. Ct. 2445, 2458
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The signification attributed to the term Militia appears from the debates in the [Constitutional] Convention, the history and legislation of Colonies and States, and the writings of approved commentators. These show plainly enough that the Militia comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense. . . . And further, that ordinarily when called for service these men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time.

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Source: United States Supreme Court, 1939 U.S. v. Miller
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A man lives by believing something; not by debating and arguing about many things.

Thomas Carlyle : Scottish essayist, historian & philosopher
Thomas Carlyle (1795 - 1881)
 
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Samuel Taylor Coleridge was involved in a discussion about religion. The other person believed that children should not be given formal religious education of any kind. They would then be free to select their own religion when they were old enough to decide. Coleridge did not bother to debate the point, but invited the man to see his rather neglected garden. "Do you call this a garden?" asked his visitor. "There are nothing but weeds here." "Well, you see," said Coleridge, "I did not wish to infringe on the liberty of the garden in any way. I was just giving the garden a chance to express itself and choose its own production.

Samuel Taylor Coleridge : English romantic poet & critic
Samuel Taylor Coleridge (1772 - 1834)
 
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Ground Zero of American Political Debate Bipartisanship, Bill Clinton recently told The Washington Post that he wanted to "help flush the poison from the atmosphere." Which would be a beautiful thing... though some of us would miss David Bonior's press conferences. On the eve of his second inauguration, the Clinton made a failed attempt to declare ideological victory. He said that "the battles of his first term largely settled the debate over the role of government in his favor, clearing the way for a new season of cooperation". The President is very wrong. Even The Washington Post couldn't swallow the President's spin whole: "Yet even as Clinton predicted that Republicans will be more accommodating to his philosophy, his comments in a 55-minute Oval Office interview underscored the extent to which a president who arrived here four years ago with a vastly more expensive and partisan agenda himself has yielded to GOP priorities." That phrase, "yielded to GOP priorities," is just one rare sentence in one news article; in short, historians will record that: Conservatism has reordered every political reality of the day.

Rush Limbaugh (1951 - )
 
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Out of Plato come all things that are still written and debated about among men of thought.

Ralph Waldo Emerson : American transcendentalist philosopher, essayist & lecturer
Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803 - 1882)
 
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Good habits, which bring our lower passions and appetites under automatic control, leave our natures free to explore the larger experiences of life. Too many of us divide and dissipate our energies in debating actions which should be taken for granted.

Ralph W. Sockman
 
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The daughter of debate*, that eke discord doth sow. * Mary, Queen of Scots

Queen Elizabeth I (1533 - 1603)
Source: Chamberlin, Sayings of Queen Elizabeth
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Later generations will regard Mengenlehre (set theory) as a disease from which one has recovered. [Whether or not he actually said this is a matter of debate amongst historians of mathematics.]

Jules Henri Poincare (1854 - 1912)
Source: The Mathematical Intelligencer, vol 13, no. 1, Winter 1991.
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It is better to stir up a question without deciding it, than to decide it without stirring it up. It is better to debate a question without deciding it than to decide it without debating it.

Joseph Joubert (1754 - 1824)
 
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In his capacity as an American citizen, each man of our Craft will do what seems to him wise and just and right and to the best interest of his country; but let us hope and pray that no echo of angry debate may be heard in any Lodge of Masons . . . lest we injure what is priceless. . . . By the same token, the men who stand out in our history, to whom we pay the highest homage, are the men of personality, principle and ideals, who, combining sympathy and good will with unbending loyalty to great truths, defied the cynical spirit and wrought disinterestedly for the common good. By as much as Masonry creates such men and endows them with moral ideals, by so much does it render its highest service to the country and the Craft.

Joseph Fort Newton (1878 - 1950)
Source: The Philalethes, August 1999, published byThe Philalethes Society
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My voice is still for war. Gods! can a Roman senate long debate Which of the two to choose, slavery or death?

Joseph Addison : English writer, statesman, publisher, essayist & poet
Joseph Addison (1672 - 1719)
Source: Cato. Act ii. Sc. 1.
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Brutes find out where their talents lie; A bear will not attempt to fly, A foundered horse will oft debate Before he tries a five barred gate. A dog by instinct turns aside Who sees the ditch too deep and wide, But man we find the only creature Who, led by folly, combats nature; Who, when she loudly cries-Forbear! With obstinacy fixes there; And where the genius least inclines, Absurdly bends his whole designs.

Jonathan Swift : Irish satirist, dean of St. Patrick’s cathedral in Dublin
Jonathan Swift (1667 - 1745)
 
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And while I at length debate and beate the bush, There shall steppe in other men and catch the burdes.

John Heywood : English playwright
John Heywood (1497? - 1580)
Source: Proverbes. Part i. Chap. iii. 1546
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Yesterday the greatest question was decided which ever was debated in America; and a greater perhaps never was, nor will be, decided among men. A resolution was passed without one dissenting colony, that those United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States.

John Adams : American statesman (2nd US president: 1797-1801)
John Adams (1735 - 1826)
Source: Letter to Mrs. Adams, July 3, 1776.
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It's amazing how much time one can spend in a garden doing nothing at all. I sometimes think, in fact, that the nicest part of gardening is walking around in a daze, idly deadheading the odd dahlia, wondering where on earth to squeeze in yet another impulse buy, debating whether to move the recalcitrant artemisia one more time, or daydreaming about where to put the pergola.

Jane Garmey
Source: A Writer in the Garden
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Regarding the debate about faith and works: It's like asking which blade in a pair of scissors is most important.

Jack Lewis (1898 - 1963)
 
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A true philosopher can no more pass by the open door of a free discussion than an alcoholic can pass by the open door of a saloon. Since my hosts have been kind enough to invite me to say what I think, the highest compliment I can pay to their tolerance and liberality will be to do just that. This is not going to be a debate. I would be the most unteachable of mortals if at this stage of life I still believed that one could get anywhere arguing with a dialectician. One might as well attempt to pacify or intimidate a walrus by tossing sardines at him as to bait a philosopher with arguments. I have accepted your kind invitation because I think the subject is worth discussing.

Hugh W. Nibley
Source: "Do Religion and History Conflict?" p. 22
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The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he would not be able to understand, much less answer. And yet he was in the right! They were wrong and he was right.

George Orwell (1903 - 1950)
Source: 1984, 1948
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[Libertarian presidential candidate André Marrou's] idea is that "government power is opposed to individual liberty." Must we still debate such sophomoric notions?... Besides, liberty, although very important, is not the only value.

George F. Will (1941 - )
Source: 1992
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Here Stanley meets, how Stanley scorns the glance! The brilliant chief, -irregularly great, Frank, haughty, rash, -the Rupert of Debate

Edward George Earle Bulwer-Lytton (1803 - 1873)
 
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The brilliant chief, irregularly great, Frank, haughty, rash, - the Rupert of debate!

Edward George Earle Bulwer-Lytton (1803 - 1873)
Source: The New Timon. (1846.) Part i.
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