Scientist’s Claim of UFO Fuel Source Verified Decades Later

Bob Lazar Element 115

Bob Lazar—perhaps no other name is as provocative in ufology as the man who introduced the world to the government’s most classified military facility, colloquially known as Area 51. Claiming to have once been employed at a secret test site in the Nevada desert, Lazar alleges he worked to reverse engineer one of nine alien spacecraft he says are hidden there.

The story begins in the 1980s, when Lazar was contracting as a physicist at Los Alamos National Labs in New Mexico — the infamous home of the Manhattan Project where the nuclear bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were designed. Prior to his employment at Los Alamos, Lazar claims to have studied physics at MIT, and electronic technology at CalTech. 

While at Los Alamos, Lazar recounts a process in which he was heavily vetted and specifically asked about his interests outside work, including the construction of a particle accelerator he built in his master bedroom. Soon, he said, he was tapped by military defense contractor EG&G to conduct highly-secretive work at a clandestine site within Area 51 known as S-4. Lazar says his superiors worked to get him what they called a “Majestic” clearance level in order to enter the facility.

In 1989, Lazar decided to blow the whistle and share his story on Las Vegas news station KLAS-TV, obfuscating his face and using the pseudonym “Dennis,” in an exposé with investigative reporter George Knapp. Eventually, he would shoot a follow-up with his face and true identity exposed, while also revealing that “Dennis” was the name of his alleged supervisor at S-4.

Since then, Lazar has been in some way related to countless attempts to either prove or debunk the conspiracy that the U.S. government (and/or a defense contractor) is in possession of highly advanced spacecraft not of this world, and that it has kept this knowledge hidden from the public for decades.

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While the amount of media attention on Lazar’s story has fluctuated over the years, a recent resurgence in interest peaked with the release of filmmaker Jeremy Corbell’s 2018 documentary “Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers.”

In a subsequent appearance on the “Joe Rogan Experience” podcast, tallying more than 37 million YouTube views, Lazar recounted his story showing remarkable consistency in the minutiae of a chronicle he’s told for decades. The discussion also came at a time in which some of those details appeared to be validated by reports of Navy pilots encountering “Tic-Tac”-shaped craft that exhibited behavior exponentially more advanced than our most state-of-the-art aerospace technology.

Bob Lazar’s Academic and Professional Credentials

Famed ufologist Stanton T. Friedman was considered one of the most credible researchers in the field until his death in 2019. Friedman’s legitimacy came from the fact that he was not only a nuclear physicist but also the original civilian investigator of the Roswell UFO incident, which he concluded was, in fact, the crash site of a spacecraft of extraterrestrial origin.

Friedman was among Lazar’s detractors whose reasoning stemmed from research he conducted into a list of graduates at MIT and Caltech during the times Lazar claimed to have been enrolled there. He said there was no evidence Lazar ever attended either school or that he ever worked at Los Alamos National Laboratory.

Friedman acknowledged that a phone book from the lab during that period did show Lazar’s name, though he discounted it saying it appeared he only worked as a technician for a company contracting for the facility.

These cloudy credentials are what most skeptics point to when trying to discredit Lazar’s story, and rightfully so, this is one area he has begrudgingly contended with, reminding us how much power the government has when it wants to erase someone’s identity. Lazar often describes how afraid he felt seeing his work and education history disappear from official records right in front of his eyes. Not to mention the overt threats he says he received from former colleagues and government agents.

In response to those questioning Lazar’s background, Corbell and Knapp have gone to extensive lengths to prove his credentials, and they’ve dug up some convincing evidence to confirm his purported pedigree.

In addition to the Los Alamos phone book containing Lazar’s name, Knapp discovered newspaper clippings from the Los Alamos local newspaper from the same years, in which Lazar was interviewed on the front page for putting a jet engine on his Honda Civic. The paper describes Lazar as a physicist working at Los Alamos National Lab.

More recently, Corbell was able to conduct an interview with a former colleague of Lazar’s from Los Alamos, Dr. Robert Krangle, who confirmed working with him and stated it was his belief that Lazar was in fact a physicist working on projects tangential to his own at the time. Dr. Krangle’s credibility can be seen in his successful career as an engineering physicist who invented the laser range finder and continues to contract for Los Alamos Labs today.

Advanced Technology and Element 115

One of the biggest claims Lazar makes when discussing the flying saucer at Area 51, is the fuel source used to generate its ‘antigravity propulsion.’ Lazar claimed in 1989 that Element 115 — a yet-to-be-discovered element on the periodic table — powered antimatter generators found on the craft. Roughly 25 years later, this element was synthesized by a joint team of Russian and American scientists working at a nuclear research facility in Russia. They named the highly radioactive and quickly decaying element Moscovium, otherwise known as Ununpentium. Lazar says the scientists reached out to consult with him when they very briefly harnessed the element.

But skeptics said this still didn’t justify Lazar’s claim, as the highly unstable isotope of the element found at the lab has a half-life of just 0.65 seconds, not nearly long enough to be a stable fuel source. Lazar responds to this by saying many elements have both stable and highly unstable isotopes, and it’s possible we haven’t yet discovered a stable isotope of Moscovium.

Lazar also referred to the materials used to construct the craft as metamaterials not from this planet. In a 2019 article published in the New York Times, a claim was made that the Pentagon had in its possession metamaterials from “off-world vehicles not made on this Earth” it has been studying for some time. 

But that’s not all the Defense Department has admitted on the topic over the past few years; the biggest bombshell was the existence of an ongoing, multimillion-dollar program to study UFOs, in addition to the footage and first-hand testimony from Navy pilots like Cmdr. David Fravor, who described encounters with UFOs performing mind-boggling maneuvers and ostensibly defying known laws of physics. Interestingly, footage in these videos shows these craft flying in manners and exhibiting propulsion systems consistent with those described by Lazar decades earlier.

“The craft that I worked on, that when it’s going to travel a long distance, that is how it operates. It puts its belly to the target and then brings all of the amplifiers to power, and you know it shoots off in that direction. It doesn’t fly as it would in a science-fiction movie. It flies with the belly, the bottom, forward,” Lazar says in Corbell’s documentary.

“There’s no question in my mind, that’s the way the craft operated,” he said. “It’s the exact same propulsion system.”

Lastly, there’s another facet of Lazar’s original story, which at first sounded like science fiction, but has since been proven to be an advanced technology used only at secret government bases during a short window of time — the bone density hand scanner.

Lazar claimed that whenever he entered the S4 facility where he studied these flying saucers, he had to put his hand on a bone density scanner with a powerful light that shone through the bones in his hand. The device measured the density and shape of the bones in his hand and fingers to confirm his identity, before providing his credentials to get into the facility. He also mentioned that this device didn’t always work very well and created a bit of a bottleneck in allowing employees entrance.

Interestingly, it has come to light that this technology, which is now defunct due to its consistently inaccurate readings, was found to have been used at a highly classified military base where the F-117 Nighthawk was developed — a classified military base at the Tonopah Test Range Airport, which happens to be another facility within the Area 51 complex. 

Knowing he hadn’t seen this technology since his days at S-4, Corbell surprised Lazar with images of the scanner, while also testing to see if he could identify what he was looking at. His genuine reaction can be seen in the documentary.

But is all this enough to prove the legitimacy of Lazar’s story? Not definitively. Without any solid physical evidence, the only thing we have to rely on is his word and poise in telling the same consistent story over several decades. Still, this could never be enough to be considered definitive proof. 

But as new pieces of disclosure continue to be released to the public that fit Lazar’s descriptions, it makes it harder to dismiss the claims of a man who never wanted the limelight and attention that came from divulging such an explosive revelation.

UFOS: The Evidence No One Is Talking About

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UFOs… whether you’re a believer or a skeptic, there is actually a mounting body of evidence regarding the UFO phenomenon that can no longer be ignored. If you look past all of the alien horror films, the fake blurry UFO videos, and the Ancient Aliens memes, you’d be surprised at how many former high ranking government officials, scientists, and military contractors believe that UFOs should be taken more seriously.

Former Canadian Minister of National Defense, Paul Hellyer, believes we’re already being visited: “At least four alien species have been visiting Earth for thousands of years.” In 2016, Hillary Clinton stated on Jimmy Kimmel that she would search for more UFO files if elected. Hillary’s former campaign manager and former Chief of Staff to President Bill Clinton and Obama, John Podesta, has repeatedly said he believes the UFO phenomenon is something very serious and worth investigating. Before Podesta left his position at the White House, he tweeted, “Finally, my biggest failure of 2014: Once again not securing the #disclosure of the UFO files. #thetruthisoutthere”

10-year-NASA contractor, Rob Bigelow, who develops space habitat pods, gave this shocking statement during a 60 Minutes interview: “There has been and is an existing presence, an E.T. presence. And I spent millions and millions and millions – I probably spent more as an individual than anybody else in the United States has ever spent on this subject.” Those millions of dollars Bigelow spent was authorized by the Pentagon’s top secret UFO research program called the Aerial Threat Identification Program. Rob Bigelow was the sole contractor.

Bigelow continued to explain that you don’t have to go anywhere to find ET life because it’s right underneath our noses. He also said he’s had his own close encounter with an ET. He declined to go into further details. In The New York Times article “Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program” they mentioned Bigelow even has recovered UFO debris and metal alloys stored in one of his facilities in Las Vegas. They stated, “researchers also studied people who said they had experienced physical effects from encounters with the objects and examined them for any physiological changes.”

When former Nevada senator and co-founder of the UFO research program, Harry Reid, was interviewed about the debris on CBS 8 Las Vegas, he said he knew nothing about it. However, he was glad that they declassified the program because “now we have scientific evidence.” What scientific evidence is Reid referring to? Whatever the case may be, the Pentagon spent nearly $110 million dollars on the program, proving our government takes UFOs seriously.

The last time the government publically had this level of interest in UFOs was in the 1950’s when UFO sightings were all the craze and were being investigated by the U.S. Air Force under Project Blue Book. After 17 years of research, Blue Book ended in 1968 when the Air Force concluded that most of UFO sightings could be debunked as Venus, satellites, birds, and swamp gas. But here’s what most people don’t know. In 1993, declassified documents from 1952 revealed that the CIA’s Psychological Strategy Board made it a mandate to purposefully debunk all UFO reports for national security concerns. They concluded that when it came to the subject of UFOs, the American people were dangerously gullible and prone to, “hysterical mass behavior.” They feared the Soviets would use UFOs as a distraction to overload intelligence channels and then carry out a genuine attack on American soil.

These documents also revealed that the CIA planned on partnering with the mass media, Hollywood, business clubs, and even the Disney Corporation to discredit all UFO research. How effective they were at implementing that plan is unknown. However, the CIA was successful at debunking UFOs using Project Blue Book.

After reviewing 6 years of data in only 12 hours (just 1% of all the research), the CIA made a hasty conclusion that most of the UFO reports could be explained and that further investigation was not worth the effort. The CIA then ordered the Air Force to stop talking about UFOs and begin a debunking campaign to lessen public interest.

U.S. Congressional hearings in the 1960’s later revealed that Project Blue Book was completely incompetent. Personnel were using improper scientific methods, they were completely understaffed, and were horribly trained. Scientific advisor to Project Blue Book, J. Allen Hynek, an initial skeptic of UFOs, later admitted the Air Force were improperly labeling UFO sightings as explained, despite the absence of any substantial evidence. After Blue Book, Hynek became a ufologist and said that the UFO phenomenon deserved serious scientific examination.

Regardless of the backlash, the CIA and Air Force’s debunking campaigns still worked. UFO research became taboo, people became disillusioned, and the media covered UFOs less and less. The influence of these disinformation campaigns have even discouraged government officials from speaking out. The former governor of Phoenix, Arizona, Fife Symington, during the 1997 Phoenix Lights event is a perfect example.

The Phoenix Lights were witnessed by 20,000 people or more. Shortly after the sighting, the governor made a huge joke about the event during a national press conference. He had a handcuffed man in an alien costume enter the room and said people are taking all of this too seriously. The explanation given at the time was that the lights were flare exercises conducted by the Air Force. However, in 2011, the governor later came forward in the documentary “Secret Access: UFOs on the Record” and confessed that he saw the lights right above him near his house. On CNN he said, “it was probably some form of an alien spacecraft.” Symington explained at the time he was driven to give an explanation instead of just saying “I don’t know” and admitting to complete vulnerability. He continued to say public officials need to be more open and more courageous in dealing with issues like this and that it’s time to square up and do the right thing. The Air Force’s flare explanation was later debunked because they conducted their exercise at 10pm. Thousands of people were reporting the lights as early as 8:30pm.

The UFO ridicule factor, created by the CIA, has succeeded in deterring citizens and public officials from the public discussion of UFOs. However, in the last two decades, more than 500 former government officials, scientists, and contractors have come forward about their concerns over the phenomenon. Hundreds of declassified and leaked UFO documents can be found online, thanks to FOIA requests and tireless researchers. Hopefully more people will learn the truth on the government suppression of UFO research and begin to study the UFO phenomenon with proper scientific methods and an open mind.

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